Does the Y!A Staff Feel they Don’t Need to Be Even the Least Bit Reasonable?
The Above QUESTION Stems From the Latest Deletion of a Q.
The Q:
I’ve had this Q Repeatedly Deleted From the Suggestion Board, I Will Ask it Here, I Recently had my Account -?
-(mdGreg C) Improperly and Arbitrarily Suspended, Do Have Any Recourse Other than the Y!As Faux Appeal Process?
•36 minutes ago
•- 4 days left to answer.
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From: Yahoo!Answers.Suggestion.Board.Admin.ta…
Subject: Your suggestion on the Yahoo! Answers suggestion board was deleted
Date: January 4, 2010 8:35:04 PM GMT-05:00
To: mdgregory1393551@aol.com
A board administrator has deleted the suggestion you placed on the Yahoo! Answers Suggestion Board.
Reason provided: Greg, as you’ve repeatedly been told, warned, and asked, please DO NOT post your account details or information on the suggestion board. YES, you do have additional options– they are to email the team– an address you have been given at least four times now– y_answrs_team@yahoo.com
You may also use the formal appeal process to which you are familiar with.
Thank you.
Suggestion topic: Account Suspension
I Recently had my Account (mdGreg C) Improperly and Arbitrarily Suspended, Do Have Any Recourse Other than the Y!As Faux Appeal Process?
33 minutes ago
I was Never Inform About Any of the Above.
31 minutes ago
Thanks See, "The Power Went to their Heads".
17 minutes ago
Sortry, Sas.
16 minutes ago
thejanith, I Have, and the TOS, I’m In Compliance.
1 second ago
Abuse of Power Again.
1 second ago
Sassy, I Placed it the Question Section, it is a Question. They Deleted it Because they didn’t Like it.
Chirp, I’m Not Offended, I’m Pursuing Options, I’m Not Very Hopeful. The Y!A Employee Makes Things Up, Like Violating a Q of Mine as "Spam", This is Obviously Not True, You can Read the Q for Yourself:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AkhJDhGW9.DFVZq.heKoYPvty6IX;_ylv=3?qid=20100101065935AA1Ab2j
9 minutes ago
Sorry Chirp, the Original Question:
I Just Saw this Ad, "Zylotrim" (MSNBC), Another "Powerful" Weight Loss Supplement (See Below)?
[Link to Website Deleted.]
• 47 minutes ago
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More:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0bgs1ZZd…
1 second ago
Chirp, the Original Violation Notice:
Hello Greg,
Thank you for writing to Yahoo! Answers Customer Care.
Your content was deleted for spam.
In Yahoo! Answers you may not post links with the purpose of directing
commercial activity to a non-Yahoo! site or an email address.
On review of your case we have decided not to reinstate your content.
Please refer to the Answers Community Guidelines and Yahoo! Terms of
Service for further information on participating in Yahoo! Answers.
We appreciate your contribution to making Yahoo! Answers a valuable
knowledge search product.
Thank you again for contacting Yahoo! Answers Customer Care. Your case
number for this issue is 67293915. Please reference it in all future
communication about this particular issue.
Regards,
Bjorn Dylan
[I Strongly Suspect that this Led to the Suspension of my Account.]
Yahzmin (US) [busy], Again, I’m Not Offended, it is a Question, as You No Doubt Know. About the Links, Just Trying to Be Thorough.
1 second ago
More Abuse of Power, I Tried to Go to: y_answrs_team@yahoo.com, but Couldn’t Get There.
1 second ago
Sorry, I Treated the Above as a Webaddress, I Have Emailed Them.
1 second ago
Got This:
Hi mdGreg,
The question you asked on Yahoo! Answers was reported by the Answers community:
"I’ve had this Q Repeatedly Deleted From the Suggestion Board, I Will Ask it Here, I Recently had my Account -?"
This question has been removed. You may not have realized this, but all questions submitted on Yahoo! Answers must comply with the Answers Community Guidelines.
If you believe that your question does not violate the Answers Community Guidelines, and would like to appeal the removal of your question, you can have your case reviewed by Answers Customer Care. You have 7 days to submit your appeal.
Appeal this decision:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/appeal?qid=20100104175506AAzDuXE
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Yahzmin (US) [busy], your Prior Response Speaks for itself:
Another answer you won’t like, I’m sure.
1) First, the original ‘question’ that got the violation was not a question "I Just Saw this Ad, "Zylotrim" (MSNBC), Another "Powerful" Weight Loss Supplement (See Below)?" Simply putting a question mark at the end of a statement does not make it a question.
2) Additionally, posting links to product sites is considered SPAM, so yes, that broke the rules. So did posting the youtube link, which is also considered soliciting (because ‘hits’ on youtube are recorded and used to rate videos).
3) Posting your email address on this site is a violation of the rules as well (privacy invasion), even if it is YOUR email.
4) The appeal process is not ‘faux’, as many, many users have successfully used it, including myself.
5) You have an issue number — use it to email the staff as directed. ONLY THEY can help you in any way. Posting this repeatedly on this site or th
Chetak., Talk With Yahsmin About Rules.
Thanks K, she has Decided What a Question is.
From Above:
"Reason provided: Greg, as you’ve repeatedly been told, warned, and asked, please DO NOT post your account details or information on the suggestion board. YES, you do have additional options– they are to email the team– an address you have been given at least four times now– y_answrs_team@yahoo.com"
I never Was Informed About Any of the Above, they Could have Provided Evidence of their Contention, But didn’t, I’m Supposed to take the Word of people Who Have Demonstrated that they can Not Be Trusted to Be Truthful. Again, "Excuse me, but your Word isn’t Good Enough".
Still No Response From the Y!As Team (y_answrs_team@yahoo.com)
Th Letter:
I Recently had my Account (mdGreg C) Improperly and Arbitrarily Suspended, I Have Another Y!A Account, Recently Created, I Wish to Recover All my Qs & As.
Greg Carpenter
[Email Deleted]
[I Need to Wait]
Now, It is Needed to Keep people From Pushing their Scams On this Site, the Honest Pay the Price, By Having the Questions Deleted and Accounts Suspended, Because Someone, In Power Thinks they MIGHT Be a Scam, One Needs to Actually READ the Question. No Doubt, to Some the Points Have a Lot of Meaning, but to me they Are Worthless, Except for Increased Privileges.
2) Additionally, posting links to product sites is considered SPAM, so yes, that broke the rules. So did posting the youtube link, which is also considered soliciting (because ‘hits’ on youtube are recorded and used to rate videos).
Still No Response Today, Becoming Even More Telling. But you can’t Shame people With No Shame.
Still No Reasponse from the Y!A Tem after Over 1 Week and a Day, From Suspension, this is the Typical Unresponsiveness of an Arrogant Bureaucracy, When they Realize they don’t Have an Answer. Perhaps they Gave Themselves an Excuse that I was "Ranting" (See Yahsmin’s A Above) ("Blame the Person").
The Question is no Longer About the Y!A Criteria, but a Person In the Bureaucracies’ Criteria (See Yahsmin’s Initial Response Above).
Sorry, "Yahzmin".
BTW, A Suggestion I Got Elsewhere:
?Anyway, the content is technically yours, but Y!A will keep it on their servers as they see fit (*somebody* went the extra step and deleted all my content knowing I wanted it for future use).??These folks won’t tell you how to get your content because they are tight with staff and probably were the ones that reported you. Use this URL for your questions:??http://answers.yahooapis.com/AnswersService/V1/getByUser?appid=YahooDemo&results=50&start=0&user_id=AA11884807??You get 50 at a time, then change the parameter "&start=" to 51, 101, 151 etc.??Use this for your answers:?http://answers.yahooapis.com/AnswersService/V1/getByUser?appid=YahooDemo&filter=answer&results=50&start=0&user_id=AA11884807??Search "Yahoo Answers API" at userscripts.org if you want a script that can help a little bit (but not much in this case).
Sorry, add this parameter to the URLS above: "&output=rss". Some RSS readers (and Opera) will take the URLs and give you a feed or search
Would just like to comment on the blind compliance to the supposed rational rules here at Y!A. Seems these answerers mostly step on her own dinks for the "good" of Y!A staffer credibility. Really paints Yahoo staff with a dumb stick, if you ask me.
Let’s use Yahzim’s answer you copied into this Q, mdGreg C, as an example of what I am referring to, here.
"Another answer you won’t like, I’m sure.
1) First, the original ‘question’ that got the violation was not a question "I Just Saw this Ad, "Zylotrim" (MSNBC), Another "Powerful" Weight Loss Supplement (See Below)?" Simply putting a question mark at the end of a statement does not make it a question."
[Looks like someone needs a wee bit more time having real conversations with others? Some additional social experiences? Some more time in school? All statements, see, but still questions. How about this: "another powerful abuse of power?" Is this a question? Well, in reality it is. Maybe not in la-la land. When a statement has a question mark at the end of it, it becomes a question. Or, are these just not questions in the fantasy land minds of Y!A staffers. I have no idea].
"2) Additionally, posting links to product sites is considered SPAM, so yes, that broke the rules. So did posting the youtube link, which is also considered soliciting (because ‘hits’ on youtube are recorded and used to rate videos)."
[This may be *considered* or *believed* to be spam, but it is NOT, clearly. I mean, is this *really* not crystal clear? Read the original f@cking question that led to "suspension". Also, if people who used youtube or other links as a source were all suspended??, pffft, there would be no users and no site.]
"3) Posting your email address on this site is a violation of the rules as well (privacy invasion), even if it is YOUR email."
[An invasion of privacy of your own privacy? An invasion on your own privacy that YOU have agreed is not an invasion of privacy is still an invasion of privacy. Give me a break. This one REALLY is a no-brainer, devoid of any logic, what so ever].
"4) The appeal process is not ‘faux’, as many, many users have successfully used it, including myself".
[Bull. Why is it that almost all people who get deleted (what "suspension", really means) NEVER get their accounts back. Are Y!A staff that good at determining who is in violation, even though "reports" are wholely based on community reports? Guess there are no trolls here. Guess erroneous reporting very rarely if ever happens here. Guess this was a valid violation, too: http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Avm0yi4HTq_xxFEYtWGvDJDpYH1G;_ylv=3?qid=20100105211434AAkfAbJ Guess the word, "troll" is just something made up and most people here do not have multiple accounts and target people they dislike. Oh, if only Y!A would review supposed violating Q's and A's FAIRLY, or at all. In any event, there is too much evidence to the contrary to support Yahzmin's contention that the appeal process has been successful for "many, many users". If this were true and it WAS fair, mdGreg C would have his account back, already].
"5) You have an issue number — use it to email the staff as directed. ONLY THEY can help you in any way. Posting this repeatedly on this site or the Suggestion Forum is spamming (again) and ranting — and therefore another violation."
[Gee, now asking a Q, that is deleted for nothing in the forum, is spamming? A question posted in the question section is ranting, too? Can't keep up with the blatant arbitrary, inconsistency of the "rules", here].
It appears, mdGreg C, that Y!A staff have been too lazy to read your original Q. Now, you have ticked them off, so they are abusing their power to justify what is CLEARLY unjust. Hope it is not that they just aren’t smart enough to see your Q as one merely querying the validity of an obvious scam, that started this whole mess, in the first place. That would be a real shame.
EDIT: Gee, thumbs-down in the Yahoo Answers section patrolled by Staffers and "blind compliers". What a surprise.
They ARE being reasonable; you are not. You are ranting.
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They are being quite reasonable, at least they are communicating with you.
Remember Answers is like the real world where there are rules and here, it is answers who make the rules.
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Would just like to comment on the blind compliance to the supposed rational rules here at Y!A. Seems these answerers mostly step on her own dinks for the "good" of Y!A staffer credibility. Really paints Yahoo staff with a dumb stick, if you ask me.
Let’s use Yahzim’s answer you copied into this Q, mdGreg C, as an example of what I am referring to, here.
"Another answer you won’t like, I’m sure.
1) First, the original ‘question’ that got the violation was not a question "I Just Saw this Ad, "Zylotrim" (MSNBC), Another "Powerful" Weight Loss Supplement (See Below)?" Simply putting a question mark at the end of a statement does not make it a question."
[Looks like someone needs a wee bit more time having real conversations with others? Some additional social experiences? Some more time in school? All statements, see, but still questions. How about this: "another powerful abuse of power?" Is this a question? Well, in reality it is. Maybe not in la-la land. When a statement has a question mark at the end of it, it becomes a question. Or, are these just not questions in the fantasy land minds of Y!A staffers. I have no idea].
"2) Additionally, posting links to product sites is considered SPAM, so yes, that broke the rules. So did posting the youtube link, which is also considered soliciting (because ‘hits’ on youtube are recorded and used to rate videos)."
[This may be *considered* or *believed* to be spam, but it is NOT, clearly. I mean, is this *really* not crystal clear? Read the original f@cking question that led to "suspension". Also, if people who used youtube or other links as a source were all suspended??, pffft, there would be no users and no site.]
"3) Posting your email address on this site is a violation of the rules as well (privacy invasion), even if it is YOUR email."
[An invasion of privacy of your own privacy? An invasion on your own privacy that YOU have agreed is not an invasion of privacy is still an invasion of privacy. Give me a break. This one REALLY is a no-brainer, devoid of any logic, what so ever].
"4) The appeal process is not ‘faux’, as many, many users have successfully used it, including myself".
[Bull. Why is it that almost all people who get deleted (what "suspension", really means) NEVER get their accounts back. Are Y!A staff that good at determining who is in violation, even though "reports" are wholely based on community reports? Guess there are no trolls here. Guess erroneous reporting very rarely if ever happens here. Guess this was a valid violation, too: http://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Avm0yi4HTq_xxFEYtWGvDJDpYH1G;_ylv=3?qid=20100105211434AAkfAbJ Guess the word, "troll" is just something made up and most people here do not have multiple accounts and target people they dislike. Oh, if only Y!A would review supposed violating Q's and A's FAIRLY, or at all. In any event, there is too much evidence to the contrary to support Yahzmin's contention that the appeal process has been successful for "many, many users". If this were true and it WAS fair, mdGreg C would have his account back, already].
"5) You have an issue number — use it to email the staff as directed. ONLY THEY can help you in any way. Posting this repeatedly on this site or the Suggestion Forum is spamming (again) and ranting — and therefore another violation."
[Gee, now asking a Q, that is deleted for nothing in the forum, is spamming? A question posted in the question section is ranting, too? Can't keep up with the blatant arbitrary, inconsistency of the "rules", here].
It appears, mdGreg C, that Y!A staff have been too lazy to read your original Q. Now, you have ticked them off, so they are abusing their power to justify what is CLEARLY unjust. Hope it is not that they just aren’t smart enough to see your Q as one merely querying the validity of an obvious scam, that started this whole mess, in the first place. That would be a real shame.
EDIT: Gee, thumbs-down in the Yahoo Answers section patrolled by Staffers and "blind compliers". What a surprise.
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